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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeAug 16th 2006
     

    Or, how I learned to stop thinking and love the dance

    So after having my dancing ripped apart, here is a summary of what Bill and I worked on. A lot of what we went over was basic principles of dancing and connection. Some of it I thought I had already learned and mastered, but I quickly learned otherwise. After an hour with Bill Borgida, I wonder how anyone has been able to lead me. My concept of how dancing is supposed to feel has also dramatically changed. I have a lot of things to work on, which should keep me busy for awhile. (I'm excited!) [Emoticon not found]

    Frame:

    I thought that I had been using my back muscles, but instead I was tensing my arms and relying on the strength of my arms to follow, rather than using my back and shoulder muscles. I got really frustrated about fifteen minutes into the lesson, because I couldn’t break my habit. However, he was really encouraging and said that it was just muscle memory, and that it was easy to fix if I practiced enough.

    Frame Concepts

    *Shoulders back

    *Relax

    *Keep frame in turns

    *Don’t pull back my right hand during swing out. Let it rest on my leader’s hand. (I was doing this annoying twitchy thing with my arm on count one.)

    *Follow with back muscles, not arms

    *Frame comes from back and shoulder muscles, not from arms

    *Compress into muscle in front of shoulders, not into arm

    Lower body:

    I think that my following relied heavily on counterbalancing with my leader, and a lot of the time I would kind of backlead to force the counterbalance I thought I needed to move. Bill worked with me on really dancing into the floor, and using the floor and my legs to propel myself where I needed to go.

    Lower body Concepts

    *Dance into the floor

    *Keep feet under hips

    *Use my core to move my hips…don’t rely on lead for help

    *Use the floor to move, not counterbalance

    Steps and Following:

    Bill showed me that I was rushing through a lot of my steps, and giving some steps more emphasis or importance than others. One thing we really focused on was my rockstep. I was rushing through count two of the rockstep in anticipation of the next move. He pointed out that I needed to take more time on my count two and wait for the lead. I also have a tendency to not commit all of my weight because I was anticipating having to move. He advised me to slow down, take my time with steps, and really wait for the next lead.

    He also pointed out that I wasn’t watching my partner while dancing, so I missed any visual cues that my partner may have been giving me, that were difficult to feel through our connection.

    Steps and Following Concepts

    *Commit to steps

    *Every step is important (rock steps into other steps)

    *Take my time during steps/ don’t rush

    *Wait for leads

    *Watch leaders for cues

    *Commit to steps

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      CommentAuthorSpecialK
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2006
     

    Bill lives in Austin. I'm not sure that I've seen him at anything though. Not that I've been looking.

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2006
     

    bill's been in the bay area for a bit. i guess he travels around quite a lot.

    traci, i'm glad you got to learn some stuff from him. not saying that you're a bad dancer or anything, but it's always good to have someone like that to point out what we could be doing better.

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2006
     

    Many thanks for posting your notes, Traci. I've been pondering some of those concepts lately, but you've given me some great stuff to work on.

    For people who are like "who's this bill guy?"

    Bill Borgida

    Recorded at a workshop in New York. Personal dance history, creation of the Swing Kids (eventually becoming "Minnie's Moochers"[Emoticon not found] and teaching philosophy. Features Catilin George.

    (Circa 2000 - 8:40 running time)

    Download the mp3 here.

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      CommentAuthorashes
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2006
     

    great tips. virgil taught me this upper body connection when i first started dancing and it has stuck. not saying that i am perfect at at but i definatelty think about it when i am dancing. it makes everything flow better.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2006
     

    connection was one of the things i struggled with for a long time, and i *thought* i had fixed it. apparently not.

    so i went out dancing wednesday night, and i really tried to incorporate some of what bill talked about, and dancing seemed to be a lot easier. hopefully i was doing things right. i guess i'll find out tonight if i get a chance to dance with him before he leaves the bay area.

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      CommentAuthorSpecialK
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2006
     

    I thought I saw him in Austin last night, but I could be wrong. The guy I saw looked similar to the pics, but didn't look amazing on the floor.

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2006
     

    [Emoticon not found]

    http://poy.no/files/events/amsterdam-2005/bill_borgida-julee_mertz-advanced1.avi

    http://poy.no/files/events/amsterdam-2005/bill_borgida-julee_mertz-advanced2.avi

    So he doesn't look like much in your eyes. I can understand that. BUT he is indisputably one of the most influencial lindy hop teachers of our day.

    After all, he taught most of the people in this clip.

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    Yeah.. Kinda like you Sunada.. Kinda sore on the eyes...ha ha ha ... Just messin dude, you look bad (meaning good) and You have infleunced a lot of people and you just keep on going

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      CommentAuthorElChuy
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2006
     

    I just watched those clips you put up roach.... indisputably he is very good. However, I couldn't help noticing that he does the "reset" all the time- it's a lot smaller than a lot of people here, but it's still certainly there. I guess bad habits aren't limited to the newbies... heh.

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2006
     

    For anyone that forgot our discussion on the "reset" (esp. ryan and tommy's comments).

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2006
     
    SpecialK:

    I thought I saw him in Austin last night, but I could be wrong. The guy I saw looked similar to the pics, but didn't look amazing on the floor.

    unlikely, since i danced with him in san francisco last night (which was fabulous). from what i've noticed, his dancing isn't "spectacular" (i.e. really big and showy), so maybe it won't seem that impressive at first. i think he's going to swing out new hamshire until labor dabor day, so you might not get to meet him before you return to provo.

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