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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2006
     

    So my roomate has DSL. And I bought a wireless router (my lappy has a built-in wireless card). I consider myself fairly computer-nerdy, so I figured I can set it up myself. I followed the directions on the box exactly, but for some reason the wireless internet works fine for about an hour or two, and then it stops. When it stops, my roomate can't get online, and she has a desktop that is hard-wired to the internet. I can't get online either. The wireless router is broadcasting a really good signal, (i.e., my lappy says the connection is "excellent"[Emoticon not found], and I can connect to the signal, but I can't go online.

    Does my roomate need a wireless adapter on her desktop? Also, she runs Win 2000 on her ghettofabulous dell, and I have XP on my lappy.

    Any ideas? I'll dance with you if you help me out? [Emoticon not found]

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      CommentAuthorBuzz
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    I was having this problem at my apartment complex and it was because of the provider. There are a few things you can try. Next time the internet goes out, do the following:

    Click on start, run, type in cmd. When the command prompt appears type in ipconfig. There should be something there that says the default gateway. It will probably be something like 192.168.1.1. Type in ping (whatever your default gateway is) If that works, you are getting to your router just fine. The next step is to try getting outside. Type in ping www.google.com. If that works, you need to check your computer because your internet connection is working just fine. If that doesn't work, type in ping 66.102.7.104. That's google's IP address. If that works, then something screwy is happening with your DNS. Get hands-on nerd help. If that doesn't work, your router is not getting to the internet and you need to get hands-on nerd help.

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    your post title was like the bat-signal for buzz...

    [Emoticon not found]

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      CommentAuthorElChuy
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    To the Nerd-cave!!!

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    Sweet. Do I do this on my roomate's computer, mine, or both?

    Thanks for your help Nerd Man. btw, who's your sidekick?

    nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-NERD MAN!

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      CommentAuthorSpecialK
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    I'd try it on the roommates computer first since it appears your DSL connection is going down rather than having any trouble with your wireless. Run all of Buzz's suggestions to verify that you are connected to the internet. You could also get a wire and plug it your computer in to run the commands and not tie up your roomies computer.

    If the DSL internet connection is working, then you can trouble shoot the wireless for your computer.

    If you just turned the wireless on since you got your card, you'll need to take some time to set up a secure connection (WPA) and change the name (SSID=Service Set Identifier) that your router broadcasts. You might consider not broadcasting the name at all. I have a suspicion that the router in my apartment was unstable because my roommate set it up with the standard "linksys" name it comes with and it had issues with the other "linksys" routers around. (These settings are generally accessed by plugging into the DSL Gateway, opening your web browser and going to 192.168.0.1)

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    I know how to change the name/password/key settings. i set all of that up the first time, but then i had problems with the wireless, so i reset everything and i'll set up everything else once i'm fairly confident that it's working.

    i hope all the advice gets it working, because i don't really know who i can bug in my ward, and i probably won't pay anyone to fix it for me. i'd rather stick with the mediocre ad-infested free wireless that i currently use than pay someone to come fix something that i should be competent enough to fix myself.

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      CommentAuthorSpecialK
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    You need to separate functions here. If the problem is your DSL internet provider, then it's their job to fix the situation (why else do you pay them so much a month?).

    If your problem is local wireless configuration, you may just need to experiment to see what works best for you. It seems you know enough to push through a lot of it, but if you mentioned what sort of DSL Gateway you had, I might be able to see if I've used the config pages for it before.

    Does this make me nerd man's side kick? I need to come up with a good side kick name. Maybe 1337 80`/ . . .

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      CommentAuthorgeek4life
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     

    this thread is too nerdy.

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     
    geek4life:

    this thread is too nerdy.

    you have no room to talk. nerd.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2006
     
    geek4life:

    this thread is too nerdy.

    uh...that's the point. dork. [Emoticon not found]

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    bobthecow:

    your post title was like the bat-signal for buzz...

    haha! [Emoticon not found]

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2006
     

    I need a nerd to help me find a way to read my old emails from the text only days (VMS/pine). I downloaded them without any idea how I could read them later. Here's an example of part of the .mai files I have in a folder still.

    [quote]Return-path: <SLNHR@cc.usu.edu>

    Received: from cc.usu.edu by cc.usu.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #23984)

    id <01J7KXYO73DS95RPOC@cc.usu.edu> for SLNHR@cc.usu.edu; Wed,

    10 Feb 1999 14:13:14 MST

    Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:13:13 -0700 (MST)

    From: TRAD_RUDIE <slnhr@cc.usu.edu>

    Subject: LOGO

    To: swing@www.usu.edu

    Cc: SLNHR@cc.usu.edu

    Message-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.990210141101.553886652A-100001@cc.usu.edu>

    MIME-version: 1.0

    Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_WxZklrhp17qirFOK20+tRw)"

    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,

    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.

    --Boundary_(ID_WxZklrhp17qirFOK20+tRw)

    Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

    EMAIL BODY

    --Boundary_(ID_WxZklrhp17qirFOK20+tRw)

    Content-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.990210141311.553886652B@cc.usu.edu>

    Content-type: IMAGE/GIF; name="<N.SLNHR>SSLOGO.GIF;1"

    Content-description:

    Content-disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME="<N.SLNHR>SSLOGO.GIF;1"

    Content-transfer-encoding: BASE64

    R0lGODlhwAQABfcAAAAAAAEBAQICAgMDAwQEBAUFBQYGBgcHBwgICAkJCQoK

    CgsLCwwMDA0NDQ4ODg8PDxAQEBERERISEhMTExQUFBUVFRYWFhcXFxgYGBkZ

    GRoaGhsbGxwcHB0dHR4eHh8fHyAgICEhISIiIiMjIyQkJCUlJSYmJicnJygo

    KCkpKSoqKisrKywsLC0tLS4uLi8vLzAwMDExMTIyMjMzMzQ0NDU1NTY2Njc3

    Nzg4ODk5OTo6Ojs7Ozw8PD09PT4+Pj8/P0BAQEFBQUJCQkNDQ0REREVFRUZG

    RkdHR0hISElJSUpKSktLS0xMTE1NTU5OTk9PT1BQUFFRUVJSUlNTU1RUVFVV

    VVZWVldXV1hYWFlZWVpaWltbW1xcXF1dXV5eXl9fX2BgYGFhYWJiYmNjY2Rk

    ZGVlZWZmZmdnZ2hoaGlpaWpqamtra2xsbG1tbW5ubm9vb3BwcHFxcXJycnNz

    c3R0dHV1dXZ2dnd3d3h4eHl5eXp6ent7e3x8fH19fX5+fn9/f4CAgIGBgYKC

    goODg4SEhIWFhYaGhoeHh4iIiImJiYqKiouLi4yMjI2NjY6Ojo+Pj5CQkJGR

    kZKSkpOTk5SUlJWVlZaWlpeXl5iYmJmZmZqampubm5ycnJ2dnZ6enp+fn6Cg

    ...[/quote]

    What's with all that code after, and is there a way to import these into a user friendly email program?

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      CommentAuthorBuzz
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2006
     

    Hm... it seems to me that all that code after is the attachment, which appears to be a .GIF image. However, it could also be encrypted. I guess the thing to do would be to look up a converter for a VMS/pine -> Thunderbird/Outlook/whatever you use now.

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2006
     

    back in the day (and sometimes today) they base64 encoded things so that they could be transferred over the internet... i think that's a base64 encoded gif. only problem is, if that gif is that old, you might not be able to read it... there was a great apostasy about 10 years ago, and gif's haven't been the same since.

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      CommentAuthorSpecialK
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2006
     

    I started using pine over a decade ago. I still use it on occasion to check my computer science email when I have ssh but not thunderbird at my disposal. We had free internet through the community college where my dad worked during the mid '90's. Broadband is so much nicer though.

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2006
     
    Buzz:

    Hm... it seems to me that all that code after is the attachment, which appears to be a .GIF image. However, it could also be encrypted. I guess the thing to do would be to look up a converter for a VMS/pine -> Thunderbird/Outlook/whatever you use now.

    Aaah, i'm starting to see through the code (man i'm out of practice). Hmm... a converter. That will be my next quest.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2006
     

    so it didn't work. [Emoticon not found] i did ipconfig, but there was no default gateway ip address, so i wrote down the one for the configuration or something. i don't remember. when i was directly connected (no wireless router), there was a default gateway address, but pinging that didn't work ever. [Emoticon not found] when i was directly connected, i could ping google's address and ip, but when i was connected through the router, it said that all of the packets sent were lost. so i'm going to take back the router and get a different brand. maybe i'll get my roomate to call sbc/yahoo and get recommendations first. if a new brand doesn't work either, then i'll broadcast the nerdsignal on a cloudy day.

    (do you think that signal would look a little like quail-man? i do)

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2006
     

    I had success with netgear while I was in SoCal. Plus bestbuy was very customer friendly.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2006
     
    T_roach:

    Plus bestbuy was very customer friendly.

    sometimes. but that's another story. i'll have to give netgear a go whenever i get back to Fry's to take back the DLink one that's less than effective.

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      CommentAuthorElChuy
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2006
     

    Yahoo for Fry's! My favorite computer store ever!

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     

    Isn't Dlink like the lowest end? Pro'ly depends on the best buy. Ours was cool.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     

    I don't know anything about router brands. I just bought the one that was cheapest after rebates.

    And also, I have mixed feelings about Frys. Just so you know.

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     

    Cheapest = D-Link

    Lowest end = D-Link

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     

    That would have been a good thing to know before I bought one. [Emoticon not found] That's what I get for buying one impulsively. I did some research on Amazon, but promptly forgot which ones had crappy ratings once I actually got to the store (which I wasn't planning on doing. I was driving from my parent's place, and there's one right off the freeway and I thought "Frys! I can get a router at Frys!" so I veered off the freeway and went into that monstrousity of good deals.) Oh well. So Netgear is the way to go, eh?

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      CommentAuthorElChuy
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     

    Dlink routers are cheap, but I have always had good experiences with them, so basically it's the luck of the draw, apparently....

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     
    traci:

    So Netgear is the way to go, eh?

    it's all relative... you usually can't beat Cisco on anything except price.

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      CommentAuthorSpecialK
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     

    We've had real issues with our Linksys (read Cisco for home users) cable router/gateway. Though it has calmed down somewhat, but it can't maintain a steady connection and has been down some days for 20% of the day. In the middle of this Comcast tested our line, and swears it's fine. When it went down, the local network died too, so I'm inclined to believe ours is faulty.

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      CommentAuthort_roach
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2006
     

    Netgear seemed to be middle of the line and decently priced with a timely rebate. If we ever had a hard time, we just restarted the cable modem, then restarted the router.

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      CommentAuthorBuzz
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2006
     
    traci:

    (do you think that signal would look a little like quail-man? i do)

    Not even close, it's obviously a caped penguin. If you don't know why, that's because you do not answer the call of the signal.

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      CommentAuthorElChuy
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2006
     
    Buzz:
    traci:

    (do you think that signal would look a little like quail-man? i do)

    Not even close, it's obviously a caped penguin. If you don't know why, that's because you do not answer the call of the signal.

    bawahaha..... too true.... viva el penguino!!!!

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
     

    so we're looking into getting qwest dsl (comcast is WAY too 'spensive, and no one else thinks they offer service to our house). qwest says their modem costs $99, but i found this one for cheaper, and there's also one that works as a modem/wireless router. is it worth anythinng, or should i go for qwest's modem and a separate wireless router?

    advice? please? i'll pay you in back rubs! [Emoticon not found]

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      CommentAuthorBuzz
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
     

    Advice? DON'T GET QWEST!

    Crappy service. Crappy customer service. Crappy service trucks. Crappy logo. etc.

    If you want advice, look into getting on the Utopia network. It should be pretty cheap and SUPER fast with a reliable connection.

    But if you must go with Qwest, I would recommend a seperate DSL modem and router/wireless access point. The ones that come bundle suck, in general.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
     

    what about that cheaper modem that best buy sells? is it any good?

    i'll look into that utopia thing, but as far as i'm concerned, internet (even if it's not the best) is better than no internet or dial up [Emoticon not found]

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2006
     

    i think our neighboorhood is still living in the 1950's. no fiberoptic line for us. i think i can even hear some of the salespersons scoff when i ask about dsl.. [Emoticon not found]

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      CommentAuthorElChuy
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
     

    I also echo the advice to stay away from Quest. Bad medicine comes from Quest. [Emoticon not found]

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      CommentAuthorBuzz
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2006
     

    As far as that goes, I would ALMOST say that you are better off with dial up than with Qwest.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2006
     

    it's like christmas! our internet is hooked up! now i just need to get this wireless router working....

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      CommentAuthorElChuy
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2006
     

    So what did you end up going with?

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    [Emoticon not found] Wow so I read through this thread and realized I am retarded and have no idea what most of you guys are talking about. LOL...

    I was just going to ask how to change my picture size so I can use my own picture for my Avatar...But now that question seems really really stupid... [Emoticon not found]

    Sigh......

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
     
    greaserdoll:

    I was just going to ask how to change my picture size so I can use my own picture for my Avatar...But now that question seems really really stupid... [Emoticon not found]

    no stupid questions... only inquisitive idiots [Emoticon not found]

    there are two answers: the photoshop answer (which will give better quality results, but doesn't do you much good if you don't have photoshop), and the ifranview answer (which costs free-ninety-nine...)

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    bobthecow:

    no stupid questions... only inquisitive idiots [Emoticon not found]

    there are two answers: the photoshop answer (which will give better quality results, but doesn't do you much good if you don't have photoshop), and the ifranview answer (which costs free-ninety-nine...)

    Well this is my problem. I have internet at work but not at home I can't download programs like that... and I don't have photoshop. Can't I give someone some pictures and they can do it for me.. [Emoticon not found] Pretty Please?

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
     

    you can actually use ifranview without installing it... so you could use it at work.

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
     
    ElChuy:

    So what did you end up going with?

    XMission, which uses Qwest's service, but they are a ton cheaper. if you pay six months at a time, it's $72 for six months. tax included. and so far, their customer service has been great. they didn't want me to have to buy a modem from them and then pay $10 shipping, so the girl went online and found the cheapest one for me and then called me back with where to find it and how much it was. it was great! and so far, the internet has been pretty good. my wireless router is a little slow, but it doesn't bother me too much. i'm waiting for an opinion from the roomies though.

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      CommentAuthorbobthecow
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2006
     

    your wireless router is faster than your connection by a couple of orders of magnitude... don't worry about replacing it.

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    bobthecow:

    you can actually use ifranview without installing it... so you could use it at work.

    How??? I can't see that option. I even just went to their main webpage but it doesn't let me try it out??? Sniff Sniff

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    [Emoticon not found]

    Nevermind I just used Paint. It is kinda small but it works. [Emoticon not found] Thanks

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2006
     

    so...anynerd want to venture a guess why my wireless router is broadcasting my 150 mbps connection at 54 mbps? (i can get 100 mbps if i connect with a cord.) and why it keeps dropping the signal?

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      CommentAuthorBuzz
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2006
     

    Hm... you need to clarify I think. Are you expecting it to be 150 mbps? Cuz' that's what it sounded like... and that will never be the case.

    I guess the other option would be that it says you are connecting at 150 mbps... but that would be kinda weird.

    And as for signal dropping, it depends on what you have blocking your LOS (line of sight), how many people are on it, how good of antenna your access point and your wireless card both have, and how well you they play together. (Oh yes, and whether you talk dirty to it or not)

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      CommentAuthortraci
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2006
     

    but i don't want to talk dirty to my wireless router....

    as for what i was expecting, i figured that actually getting 150 was not probable, but something more than 1/3 of the speed i'm supposedly paying for would be nice. maybe i could try sticking tinfoil to the antenna....

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